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04/16/2009

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Yes the bottles. Now I've changed them three-four years ago, big, heavy (650gr. I've tryed to find the same kind but lighter, but nope, they don't make it, and I wish I haven't done it. Let's be honest, they are a bit tacky but they look nice. It's more difficult to go back now, maybe I'll do it but not now, too scared to change anything. It must be noted, however, than the difference in price between a "standard" bordeaux bottle (400 gr, pretty ugly I have to say) and a 650gr bottle is "only" 15 cents of a euro. Not really that much money difference to make a 14.99 wine into a 9.99 wine, is it? But every little help, I agree.
Screw caps. Yes, except that they are not allowed on top wines (DOCGs, but also other DOCs deny the possibility), and they are not cheap. Plus the machine needed to put them in place of a cork costs a lot if you have to buy it, and you don't want to hire a mobile bottling line if you own one at your winery (it wasn't cheap when you bought it, oh no).
Nothing is simple, in the end, I'm afraid. What about talking about the wines as well, I mean, the liquid inside the bottle. Is it out of fashion now?
Not one of your winery, but a fervent admirer! Ciao.

GPP, it's never out of fashion to talk about what's in the bottle!

(Although you might check this post on mondosapore for my thoughts about that http://www.mondosapore.com/mondosapore/2009/04/the-problem-of-authenticity.html )

Remember 15 euro cents translates, ultimately, to about $1 US with transport, markups etc. A cheaper bottle would help a bit in these times.

I can see why DOCG's forbid screw caps, but, frankly, I think the DOC's are making a mistake. In the US, I can't think of any DOCG wines that retail for under $15; there are DOC's that do, but exactly how good a guarantee of anything is that appellation, really?

A lot of our producers are very small and have to hire out their bottling. So...

You're not one of our producers...but we're watching you, boy!


With great respect I think you miss the point. The problem with winesales
in the Uk is simply the astronomical tax applied to the product and the loss leaders fromthe likes of tesco, aldi and even asda. The Uk public will pay for quality wines but from established vintners. I say this having owned wine bars and pubs ove the years . Pubs are currently (April 2009) closing at the rate of 40 a week! You also have the euro verses sterling situation, so that effectively hikes the import price up.

Julian, I missed no point. We both come to the problem with different perspectives and wishes. Both are valid as far as they go.

I don't know about Britain, but the famed American "three-tier" system is effectively a big tax on everyone from the importer to the consumer.

I agree with Julian about the taxes and the perception about prices generated by loss leaders in supermarket. I've heard comments about some good wine that would be too expensive at 9 pounds a bottle, when I know that to be at that price the wine mustn't leave the country of orgin more than 3 euros a bottle. Now, it's not easy to make quality in europe below that price, so I think that is unfair that people aren't able to judge what is really the a fair price for a bottle of wine.

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